Democratic Underground Monitoring Blog (DUMB)

Wednesday, July 23, 2003


Let's see what the loons are saying about the death of Uday and Qusay. I am frequently amazed by the lengths some DUers will go to just to feul their hatred of GWB. As one seemingly rational poster in this thread (demdave) says, killing these two brutal thugs is a good thing. (I probably should praise demdave -- since he has less than 1000 posts and a similar name to mine, he'll probably get banned.)

study_war_no_more
we just murdered two bad guys without a trial or due process in their own country. We can show our national pride and pretend other people don't like us cause we claimed their natural resources which evryone knows are ours. Manifest destiny they just don't get it.

Generic Other
Murdering the families of heads of state is a great precedence to set
I'm sorry, if these guys are such criminals they should have been brought to justice, not just murdered by our military. Convenient isn't it?

aquart [this one is just sick]
Good thing the Bush twins don't like travel any more than Dad.

Someone overseas might think they're fair game

haymaker [aluminum foil hat time]
Just in the nick of time...........again.
How fortunate for George. He sure is lucky. I wonder when the killing of Saddam or Osama will happen. Hmmmm, let's see, around October '04? Yeah, that's the ticket.
Another seemingly rational DUer posts the following:
Nick879

I'll get flamed for this I'm sure, so I'm putting on the asbestos boxers, but reading a few of the posts here, it's no wonder the Freepers called some of the anti-war protestors Saddam lovers. Irregardless of the politics of the war, these two men were human rights criminals who, if captured, would have went to trial and almost certainly have been found guilty of crimes against humanity by ANY court in the world. The punishment for their crimes in Iraq would have been death. The facts were there for any to look up and read even before the Bush media blitz to demonize Saddam. These two men were simply monsters who have been brutalizing Iraqi civilians for over a decade, and even attempted to kill one another! To ignore the vast amounts of evidence gathered on these two before Bush was even in office would be unbelievable. I have no problem debating the methods used to capture these men or the illegality of the war we started on faulty information. However, I can't believe there would be any debate over whether or not these two men deserved to die. No, it wont stop the attacks. No, it won't give Bush any more credibility on the WMD flap. But I'm not going to shed a tear for these men who are responsible for the deaths of thousands of their own people.
Sadaam lovers? Nah, just simple-minded "everything Bush does is wrong!" partisan hacks.

Saturday, July 12, 2003


A reaction from a DUer to this blog.

a_random_joel
I'm sure you already know this.

Let us see if they have enough integrity to post the following:

DUMB criticizes DU for not allowing opinions from the Right to be posted, and for banning said posters.

Is DUMB willing to play fair and criticize FreeRepublic for this practice as well? They do the same thing. In fact they do it on a harsher scale, because at least here at DU, we are allowed to post links to conservative commentary(it's fun to rip them apart). At FR, threads which link to Left leaning commentary are frequently pulled.

So DUMB, fairness and integrity? Or bias and hypocrisy?
I just do this for entertainment. I find the Left extremely funny sometimes, particularly the raving extreme leftwing present at the DU. I have no pretentions of balance or "fairness". This is an opinion blog; I have no illusions about this being balanced journalism.

Frankly, "they do it too!!" is hardly a defense for the general behavior of the administrators at DU.

Friday, July 11, 2003


Once more into the booby-hatch of the 9/11 forum. Here is a "poll" (survey really) of the conspiracy inhabitants on their "HOP" level: Did Bush:
1. Made It Happen on Purpose
2. Let It Happen on Purpose
3. Let it happen because of stupidity
4. Other.

MIHOP and LIHOP are running neck-and-neck.

Further down, one of my favorite anti-konspiracy posters, LARED, gets into it with an appologist/denier for Radical Islam:


Talk about a weighty endorsement. Willie Nelson endorses Kucinich. Nothing left to do but count the votes (on one set of fingers and toes probably). Some other endorsements listed in this thread.


Hello to any visitors from the DU, particularly SoCalDem! [If I wew graphics savvy I'd put the little waving-hand smiley guy here]

This is the first evidence I've seen that anyone at the DU bothers reading this blog.


Tuesday, July 08, 2003


Thread wondering about whether they should have a forum debating the Right. Here are two posts from unclefuzzzy

[post 1, emphasis added]

I am sure that there are people from both forums that can have a friendly but spirited debate.

I realize that there are some here @ DU, and some from FreeRepublic.com that just cannot have an debate as mentioned above, but there are many from both forums that can.

Now to let you know right from the start with this reply being my first post here on the DU forum that I am a Freeper. I will not try to hide my political views from anyone, make people think I am somebody I am not (as I know some Freepers have done in the past), I will always be honest with you my political leanings..

You probably will almost never change my mind about most things politics, and I probably won't change yours either, but I think I can have a friendly and spirited debate with many here in these forums.

Another reason I joined this evening is that there are many threads here, some political, some not, that every once in a while I have wanted to add my two cents to...

Well whether this idea goes anywhere or not, see you in the forums.

Jon

[second post]

I will be the first to admit that there are persons on FreeRepublic.com that would not be able to have a friendly and spirited debate here on DU, just as I'm sure that there are some here on DU that couldn't do the same at the FreeRepublic.com forum...

But I am sure there are many from both that can have that friendly and spirited debate.

Jon

And as I stated in my previous post to this thread, I openly admit to being a Freeper, and I don't think I fit your description, "Freepers are the nastiest, least civilzed, ill-informed, anti-democracy nutsacks in the country. Thes fascists wouldn't (and couldn't) engage in a polite discourse of political opinion if their lives depended on it.", of Freepers..

Tombstoned.

Oh, and I noticed this bit of unintended honesty:
SoCalDem
ANYONE who wants to "debate" the "virtues" of rabid rightwing vitriol vs the common sense and truth of the progressives, can find about 1 MILLION chatrooms and forums ..

DU is the ONE place where we do NOT need their "oh so generous" input..
Millions of chatrooms and forums for the Right, only the DU for the left... gee, might that be because it's not the RIGHT that is full of "rabid vitriol"?

Monday, July 07, 2003


I don't like California Governor Davis. Among other things, I think he is largely responsible for exacerbating the energy crisis in 2000. However, I'm ambivalent on the recall effort -- if anyone deserves it, it's Mr. Davis, but I don't like the procedure. I think California needs to look at revamping this particular law. However, it is the current law, so they need to follow it.

Anyway, the point of this little rant is this thread: The California Solution.

know many think this recall effort will fail to make the ballot. I sure hope it does. But in case it makes the ballot here is our solution. The Lt Gov runs on the replacment ballot with no other left wing candidate. If Davis wins then cool. If not the Lt Gov takes over and appoints Davis the new Lt Gov. Then he resigns and appoints Davis Governor and Davis appoints him Lt Gov. Let the Republican rat bastards stew on that.
Talk about subverting the will of the voters.


The DU switched to a new version of their software over the weekend, and it seems to have gone surprisingly smoothly. Unfortunately, all the previous threads were transformed to Read Only.


Friday, July 04, 2003


Happy 4th!


Close Call for Sandra Day O'Connor (almost hit by falling beam) A BFEE conspiracy naturally.

corarose
The works of Bush Sr & Jr
They want to get rid of her so that they can appoint another right winger to the Supreme Court.

MrBenchley
Guess she wouldn't get in the small plane


Wednesday, July 02, 2003


This comment speaks for itselfwakfs:

At this point....
...I would even accept blatant lies from my candidate if it meant overturning the Bush junta.


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